Showing posts with label Doctrine-Free Will. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Doctrine-Free Will. Show all posts

Tuesday, April 22, 2008

What Do You Mean by “Free Will”?

C Michael Patton@ www.reclaimingthemind.org deals with the concept of "free will". He considers:

Do you mean:
  1. That a person is not forced from the outside to make a choice?
  2. That a person is responsible for his or her choices?
  3. That a person is the active agent in a choice made?
  4. That a person is free to do whatever they desire?
  5. That a person has the ability to choose contrary to their nature (who they are)?
Does a person have the ability to choose against their nature?

Notice all these factors that you did not choose that go into the set up for any given “free will” decision made:

  • You did not choose when you were to be born.
  • You did not choose where you were to be born.
  • You did not choose you parents.
  • You did not choose your influences early in your life.
  • You did not choose whether you were to be male of female.
  • You did not choose your genetics.
  • You did not choose your temperament.
  • You did not choose your looks.
  • You did not choose your body type.
  • You did not choose your physical abilities.
However, we still have some massive difficulties. Here are a few:
  • A neutralized will amounts to your absence from the choice itself.
  • A neutralized will amounts to perpetual indecision.
  • A neutralized will amounts to arbitrary decisions, which one cannot be held responsible for.
“From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27 God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28 ‘For in him we live and move and have our being.’” Acts 17:26

In his conclusion, he suggests: "I encourage you to read J.P. Moreland and William Lane Craig in their book Philosophical Foundations for a Biblical Worldview. They disagree with my thesis here, but they present a strong case for the other side".

Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Peterson on Free Will

From Justin Taylor @ http://theologica.blogspot.com

I recently received a copy of Robert Peterson's new book, Election and Free Will: God's Gracious choice and Our Responsibility . It is the first book P&R's new series, Explorations in Biblical Theology, edited by Peterson, who is professor of systematic theology at Covenant Theological Seminary.

The book looks excellent--a combination of exegetically grounded and pastorally sensitive theology.

I thought it might be helpful to provide an outline of Peterson's chapter on "free will." John Piper always used to say that the first task of a good theologian is to make distinctions, and Peterson makes a number of helpful ones in this chapter:

Free Will and the Bible's Story

1. Human beings as created had true freedom and freedom of choice.
2. Human being as fallen lost true freedom and retained freedom of choice.
3. Human beings as redeemed have regained a measure of true freedom and retained freedom of choice.
4. Human beings as glorified will be perfected in true freedom and will retain freedom of choice.

True freedom = "the ability to love and serve God unhindered by sin" (p. 131)
Freedom of choice or spontaneity = "the ability of human beings to do as they wish" (p. 126)

Free Will and Reasons Why People Are Saved and Condemned
1. Reasons why people are saved
a. People are saved because they trust Christ as Lord and Savior.
b. People are saved because the Holy Spirit opens their hearts to the Gospel.
c. People are saved because Christ died and rose to save them.
d. People are saved because the Father chose them for salvation before creation.

2. Reasons why people are condemned
a. People are condemned because of their actual sin.
b. People are condemned because of Adam's original sin.
c. People are condemned because God passed over them (reprobation).

Free Will and Its Relation to God's Sovereignty
1. The Bible affirms both divine sovereignty and genuine human responsibility.
a. The Bible affirms divine sovereignty.
b. The Bible affirms genuine human responsibility.
c. The Bible affirms divine sovereignty and human responsibility together.

2. Parameters for sovereignty and responsibility.
a. Fatalism must be rejected as an error.
b. Absolute power to the contrary must be rejected as an error.

3. To emphasize either sovereignty or responsibility at the expense of the other is to fall into the error of rationalism.
a. Hyper-Calvinism is an error.
b. Arminianism is an error.

Of course, to see these defended, explained, and synthesized, you'll have to read the whole thing!

Tuesday, January 09, 2007

Elements in Understanding the Concept of Free Will

From Reformation Theology @ http://www.reformationtheology.com/

For clarity, when the majority of Synergists say that man has free will, what he really means is that causal determinism is false – not that the natural man has the moral ability to chose Christ. Secondly, when a Calvinist says that man does not have free will, what he means is the natural man is spiritually impotent and thus does not have the moral ability to chose Christ.

In this both both sides agree: the desires of the natural man (who do not have the Holy Spirit) are naturally toward evil, all he does does not spring from a heart that loves God, even so-called "good works". This inclination is the result of being born in Adam, fallen, that is, born into a broken relationship with God, and a person can be no other way unless he is set free by Christ so that the relationship is mended.

Unbeknownst to many, these are truths that every true follower of Christ knows, even if we do not mean the same thing when we use the phrase, “free will.” Thus, these truths form part of the common ground shared by all true followers of Christ. The question is whether the freedom granted to us is effectual or ineffectual? Whether we are quickened (regenerated) while we are still dead in transgressions or whether those without the Spirit can understand and love Christ apart from regeneration. The Scriptures tell us: "Even, when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ..." (Eph 2:5). So when we were unregenerate, Christ through the Holy Spirit quickened us by grace, making us alive in Him. Since a natural man cannot understand spiritual things unless God grants his Holy Spirit to renew our hearts, he will not come unless first quickened. Those dead spiritually (without the Holy Spirit) do not have faith by definition.

But with regards to the ideas of “free will” and determinism: the central issue has to do with whether things happen contingently or by necessity. Do our natures drive us to make choices by necessity or may we choose against what we are. "You do not believe because you are not of God," Jesus said to those Jews he was debating with. When set free when united to Christ, He gives us a new heart that willingly and voluntarily chooses Christ of necessity.

Libertarian free will and molinism simply do not square with what we believe to be true about God as plainly revealed in Scripture. Therein lies the main issue. (see John chapters 8 and 10).

Monday, January 08, 2007

Free Will and Dave Hunt

Posted by Alan Kurschner @ http://www.calvinistgadfly.com/

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In the most recent The Berean Call Q&A section, someone asks the question:

“In a recent sermon, our pastor said, ‘Free will is not a biblical term.’ Is that true? Please explain.”

Hunt responds with,

Free will to obey or disobey, love or hate, submit or rebel, is not only biblical but essential to man’s relationship to God. He calls us to love, obey, serve, and worship Him and to do so by choice: “Choose you this day whom ye will serve” (Jos 24:15).

i) Notice the type of “Free Will” that Hunt is defending (Think in ancient terms). That’s right. This is the free will concept taught by Pelagius. A free will that is morally neutral, which is no free will at all—a will by definition is not neutral, but moves in a particular direction.

ii) Hunt avoids the real issue though: Yes, there is a choice before us (Hunt would have others believe that Calvinists deny this, which is not true). But the $64,000 question is, what enables us to obey our Lord, and what prevents us from obeying him? The absence of this discussion by Hunt is not by mistake. Hunt’s emphasis on his phantom “free will” does not make room for God’s efficacious grace and freedom.

iii) Hunt makes the same fallacy as Pelagius did by making a leap by assuming that a command to do something implies that the creature has the moral ability to obey.

It is the Father’s will that he use commands for his children to hear his voice. But to assume that all ears have the moral ability to listen is clearly not taught by our Lord, nor Paul.

God’s grace (and absence of grace) demonstrates the absolute dependency on God.

Are those who have stubborn ears responsible then for their actions? Yes:

“Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.”
(Rom 3:19)

“Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden. One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will?” But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?”
(Rom 9:18-22)

Hunt continues,

God would not be glorified in any obedience, worship, or love that did not come willingly from the heart.

Notice that Hunt suggests that the “willingly” originates in man. This is a fundamental error of his. Any righteous acts of the creature are enabled by undeserving grace that originates from God.

For why should God be glorified if the willingness is the cause of man?

The unregenrate man cannot choose God because it wills not that desire:

“The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. ”
(Rom 8:6-7).

Jesus did not come to affirm a free will—but to set it free:

“Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.”
(John 8:34-37)

When the person asked Dave Hunt whether “free will” was a Biblical term or concept, did Hunt appeal to the above mentioned words of our Lord Jesus regarding man’s slavery, or Paul’s treatise on the bondage and moral inability to choose God? Nope.

Truly, this is indicative of Hunt’s tradition-encrusted synergism that he is silent on these germane teachings from Christ and Paul.

So what does Hunt appeal to in defending libertarian free will?

He writes,

But that concept [free will] appears 17 times in the Bible! The same meaning is expressed in other words. “Free offerings” is found twice (Ex 36:3; Am 4:5), as is “a voluntary offering” (Lv 7:16). All are to be brought “voluntarily unto the LORD” (Ezk 46:12). The first offering in Leviticus (a pattern for all) was to be brought by the worshiper “of his own voluntary will” (Lv 1:3,4). The many “freewill” offerings were to be given by the individual “willingly with his heart” (Ex 25:2).

Yes, you read that correctly. Hunt makes a catergorical blunder.

He attempts to fuse the category of “Law” and “Metaphysical Human Nature” together. “Free will offerings” is only relative to the Law and does not intend to instruct us into the nature of the will.

This is on the blunderous par when Ergun Caner asserted, “I am not a Calvinist, I am a Baptist.”

That would be like saying, “I am not a Trinitarian, I am an Arminian.” No logical connection.

To respond to “free will offerings” is a desperate attempt to find libertarian “free will” in Scripture.

John Samson posts the following from the comments section of his instructive article on free will.

Concerning the question about “free will offerings” here’s something on this from Vincent Cheung:

Against a statement like, “Nowhere does the Bible say that man has free will,” there are people who answer by saying that the Bible mentions “freewill offerings” in a number of places, and from this observation they assert that the Bible therefore teaches free will or that man has free will. (In the NIV, see: Exodus 35:29, 36:3; Leviticus 7:16, 22:18, 21, 23, 23:38; Numbers 15:3, 29:39; Deuteronomy 12:6, 17, 16:10; 2 Chronicles 31:14; Ezra 1:4, 6, 2:68, 3:5, 7:16, 8:28; Psalms 54:6; Ezekiel 46:12; Amos 4:5.)

This is one of the strangest objections against the denial of free will, and although I have known about it for years, I have never given a written response to it. This is because it is so silly that I feel embarrassed to even mention it, and to take it seriously enough to write about it. Nevertheless, I am occasionally asked about this by Christians who do not know how best to answer the objection, and I have responded in private to them…

The objection seizes upon the common English term, but here ends the similarity between the topic (of divine sovereignty and human freedom) and the verses usually cited. The term is not always rendered “freewill offerings,” but in places where the NIV and NASB offer such a translation, the KJV sometimes says “free offerings,” “voluntary offerings,” and “willing offerings.”

Freedom is relative — you are free from something. We say that man has no free will because in discussing divine sovereignty and human freedom, we are discussing the metaphysical relationship between God and man. To be specific, the question is the manner and extent that God exercises control over man’s thoughts and actions. Thus in such a context, when we ask whether man has free will, we are asking whether man is free from God or from God’s control in any sense. Since the biblical teaching is that God exercises constant and comprehensive control over all of man’s thoughts and actions, the necessary conclusion is that man has no free will. He has zero freedom relative to God.

The “freewill offering” is “free” because the Law does not require it as it does the other regular and occasion offerings, so the freedom is relative to the Law, and the freedom related to this offering exists only in this sense. The people are “free” to give or not give the offering from a legal or ceremonial perspective. These verses do not address the metaphysical perspective, so that they can neither establish nor refute metaphysical human freedom. But when referring to “free will” in the context of divine sovereignty and human freedom, we are talking about whether we are free from God — and this is about metaphysics. We are talking about whether God has complete control over man’s thoughts, actions, and circumstances — he does, and therefore man has no free will, no freedom relative to God. In one instance, we are talking about man’s relationship (of moral obligation) with the Law, in the other, about man’s relationship (of cause and effect) with God. Only the English term happens to be the same, and not even all the time in the English versions, but they are in fact two different subjects of discussion.

There are passages that teach the same relative freedom but do not use the term. Here is one example: “Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God” (Acts 5:4, KJV). When Peter says that the property was “thine own,” and that the money was “in thine own power,” he is referring to property ownership relative to Peter himself and the other Christians — that is, Ananias did not have to sell the property or give the money to them. But this relative ownership or freedom has nothing to do with divine determinism — they are two different subjects. Peter is not saying that Ananias had ownership of the property or money relative to God, but only that he had the right, or the freedom if you must, to withhold the property or the money from other people, and that from a legal or moral perspective, not a metaphysical one. Peter is certainly not saying that Ananias could have kept the property or money from God in a metaphysical sense! But metaphysics is what we are talking about when we discuss divine determinism.

Another verse sometimes cited is Philemon 1:14. In the NASB, it reads, “…but without your consent I did not want to do anything, that your goodness should not be as it were by compulsion, but of your own free will.” Aha! Paul says that Philemon has free will! But this verse is even more obviously irrelevant than the others, since those involved are explicitly mentioned. Paul says that “I” (Paul) did not want to do anything without “your” (Philemon’s) consent. He did not want Philemon to act out of “compulsion,” but this compulsion is relative to Paul, and thus also the so-called “free will.” The freedom is relative to Paul. The verse refers to the social relationship between two creatures, Paul and Philemon, but it says nothing about the metaphysical relationship between God and Philemon.

Thursday, January 04, 2007

The "Joy Quartet" at Pensacola Christian College teach us about the Arminian doctrine of free will: Ugh



Chad V. Says: Wow, ummm…. so who was that song “praising”, man or the Lord? Apparently it’s okay to exalt man’s freewill at a church service that’s supposed to be praising the Lord. This song sort of riechs of Pelagianism. Also, why didn’t they talk about our need of repentance, and salvation from the wrath of God because of sin? Why didn’t the end of the song after”God” asks “will it be yes or no” say, “If it’s no then the fires of hell await you for all eternity.” Apparently God’s love for us is found in the gift fo free will at Pensacola. My bible says; but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.(Romans 5:8). Nothing about freewill here. I’m gonna go have some ice cream now. I deserve a treat after listening to that.

Doug
Says :The chorus of that sappy song should actually be: “If I gave you freedom, your response would always be no….”

Thank God that he didn’t leave me to my own choice, because I would never have choose Him!

Mark Says:Ah, Pastor Jim. This is dated, he left PCC under a cloud of controversy.

Happened last spring (06), just after I heard him conduct the funeral of a friends 6 year old girl. After he finished, my 12 year old thought it was sad he could not comfort the family with his
sermon.

What you have seen is tame compared to most PCC antics. They are legalistic, almost cultic. The insurance company I formerly worked for insured their auto fleet. I was out on the campus every week.

Chad V, Pelagius is too orthodox for them. Once, one of them engaged me in conversation. This was unusual since there was not another “student” or faculty member present. When he
found out I was a pastor, he asked how many souls had I saved? My reply of God saves, not I, caused him no end of problems. He honestly thought I was in league with satan by the time we finished our conversation. I guess laughing at some of his more empty headed comments
did not help. Sometimes you have to laugh, so as not to cry.

R. Santos Says: And all the inhabitants of the earth [are] reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and [among] the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou? Dan 4:35

Peter Sarjeant Says: Psalm 14: 1-4 CONTRASTED with Psalm 110: 3; Psalm 65:4; and James 1:18. Whew: Just had to recheck my Bible to make sure that the above verses were still in there.

They were.